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Knowdat commented
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Any chance of a re up pls
 
Her OF account is run totally by an agency. Except for live chats during CB camshows, you will never be talking to her even though they will pretend you are. You can get, at least, topless content of her via OF, but you will have to do it by playing games with their chatters whose sole job is to try to chat you up as the model into paying a lot more for the content then you would otherwise. Just a general warning that this is becoming very common throughout the OF universe resulting in not just fake conversations, but pressure sales tactics and much higher prices for content as they need to take their cut off the top.
 
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saint_t commented
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I’ve been talking to her for weeks now and can’t seem to get her to show more than her fantastic boobs.
 
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I can guarantee you've not been talking with her. I'm sure you've heard "I'm not comfortable", or "ready", or "trust you enough yet"" to show more, "give me some time", "when I get to know you better", etc.

For what it is worth, more and more models are either using agencies to handle their loads or build business, or were recruited by an agency and the model simply provides a bank of content. So, I would advise everyone to start with the assumption that they're not talking with the real model.

Here are things I've noted in conversations with Ivy's chatters, and agency chatters in general, that can be used to detect them:

  • They are always logged on. No real person is always logged on.
  • They respond quickly at all times of day.
  • They can never produce even simple requests for personalized content in the moment. Ex: show me a picture with my name written somewhere, or the current time, or with what you just showed me you are wearing but from a different angle. They will always chat you in a direction that they already have pre-produced content for and either ignore or have excuses for why they can't handle spontaneous requests. They may be able to come back at later time with personalized content (after they've had a chance to acquire it from the model).

    If you push them on any of this, even innocently, they will ignore or push back with "don't you trust me?" and then go on the offensive to try and make you feel guilty.
  • They seem to form a personal connection with you much more quickly and deeply than makes sense. One may think it's because you're developing a connection, but it's based more on them seeing your willingness to spend money. They routinely check if you are there, or why haven't you responded, and just, in general seem kind of needy for attention. This is often harder to see because we want to believe it.
  • There is inconsistency in the conversations. They forget things you or they told you previously. It is one thing to forget a trivial detail, but not info from lengthy or more intimate conversations.
  • They can't answer questions, or they answer incorrectly, about factual things the real model talked about on her livestreams.
  • Changes in language style. Some times they use text shorthand and other times they don't: "how r u" and "idk" vs "how are you" and "I don't know". Or, they use inconsistent vocabulary or generationally different words or phrases.
  • They rarely, if ever, just offer you content and a preview. They need to chat you into wanting it and then they reveal it in increasingly expensive forms. They do this to get you to spend more money than you would for similar content. When you've bought the final level they're not so anxious to keep talking. ("I'm tired now" or "I need to run").
  • Messages that they have written in the last session, but that you've not yet responded to, will disappear. They need to clear the slate so that the next chatter coming online either doesn't have to pick up from the previous chatter's dialog or because they get paid on commission and they don't want the next one to use their chat.

I'm probably forgetting some things. Once you realize it, it's obvious and hard not to see in all aspects.

I would guess you've experienced most or all of this with Ivy's chats.

If you still have any doubts or really want proof with Ivy, I'll send you a PM with some things to try. I won't post it here as a good agency will be monitoring these kind of conversations and will provide the answer to their chatters.
 
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saint_t commented
i posted earlier i love your blue eyes and she thanked me. now im in a full scale argument with her/them :)
 
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haha, that is a perfect example. I had a similar experience with "her" and it is another example of how to detect. I sincerely thought she had brown eyes. Turned out it was just a trick of the light. But, when I said she had brown, I didn't get any correction. And when I specifically asked for confirmation, the question got ignored and I didn't think much about it at the time. (Which, actually is a bit strange since that is something they could check in the moment by looking at her content or even just should have been listed on a fact sheet). Later, in viewing better-lit content, I said, "oh wait, they actually look green'". "Yes, they are green". A few minutes later, I said, "but they have a brownish cast, so hazel is actually the best description". "Yes, hazel sounds right". One's eye color is not something anyone, let alone a woman, is fuzzy on.
 
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rinzor commented
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There's a much simpler checklist to tell if a girl is using an agency
  • Girl is on onlyfans
  • Has more than 4 subscribers
Since lockdowns ended and people could leave their homes no one runs their onlyfans any more.
 
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rinzor


Haha, very good! You're more right than wrong, although I do still know some popular ones who respond to their own messages. I was pleased to see one of them explicitly say in her profile:

"Yes, I have help - I can’t do all the tech and editing myself, and honestly, I like it that way. I’ve been doing it this way since 1996. But you’ll only ever talk to me on here - comments, messages, all of it."

I think both models do require a message to include a tip as a way of filtering them to a more manageable volume and weed out the shit posts.

I wish more models adopted this policy. OF was originally a vehicle for girls in the sex business to get out from under the pimps. Now, not only are most effectively back under again, but it's ruining the whole value of OF providing a way for fans to personally connect. Perhaps it doesn't matter anyway, I'm pretty convinced it's only a matter of time before enough guys decide A.I. generated models are real enough to provide the same thrill without all the hassle.
 
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medegen commented
Its easy, if shes online 24/7 is an agency runned OF. And yes, there are some "minority" girls that run them selves, most of the girls i follow do.
 
Is there anyone here who routinely follows ivy on CB who knows if she streams under a different name on another service than CB?

I've linked a recording of the last 7 1/2 minutes of her last show on July 31. Her mic is bad, but she seems to be saying at the very end that she is ending the show on CB and picking up on her other site. Does she stream on another site or is she referring to her OF? We know she isn''t streaming on OF or even responding to messages herself. So, is that just a ploy to drive her webcam fans to her OF where her agents will try to make some money off of them?

i was curious, so I started listening to the ends of other shows and she often says something to the effect of "it's 6pm, so I need to end here and move to my other site". She seems to be intentionally coy about what that other site is. That may be because CB doesn't want other sites discussed, or maybe because she often seems to imply that that knowledge is only for those in the know. In the show I've linked, she says something like "for those who tipped 25". But, it's a bit garbled. At other times, she's said the other site is linked in her bio. The only site linked there *currently* is OF.

I tried using the CamGirlFinder tool, but it only knows her on CB.

 
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Timbo62 commented
100% agents I got pulled in, read comments on here so went straight back to her of page, said this is not you!! She said I can't work I'm busy at the bar I told you! But she said she did not start for 4 hrs, so I knew she or they were lieing , after days talking with her I thought, she just said well don't talk to me then , I don't care, !!! So sad to find out like this, I did say ring me and I know it's you !
 
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InRealTime commented
Timbo62


Another indication will be that after a short period of time, the next chatter will hit you up with a friendly text as if your previous conversation never happened. Because, to her, it didn't.
 
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Eggnt


Thanks, that is a very useful site that I routinely reference.

In this case, as it turned out, Ivy was referring to her OF webpage which, as it also turns out, she has nothing to do with managing. So, when she says "I'll see you on my other site", what she means is, the agents on her OF page will pretend to be her, chat you up as if you've got a special connection with her, and try to sell you content for inflated prices because they need to make their commission on top. She knows exactly this is happening and that dishonesty and manipulation is enough to prevent me from ever giving her a dime (..."again", that is. Unfortunately, I had spent money before catching on).
 
Anyone know if she’s ever had any pussy slips on stream ?
 
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Pedrorodrigo commented
Do you have anything from her OF? Does she post some nude or is she another scammer?
 
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Pedrorodrigo


"She" is a scammer in the sense that her OF account is run by agents and you never talk with her even though they will pretend like you are and she will send fans to her OF site from her camshows acting like "she" will see them there knowing full well that they will not he communicating with her.

Topless content is offered on her OF if you're willing to play the game with her agents in private messages. I've also heard she might now have some content where she shows her pussy. In either case, it is very over-priced and acquiring it is like trying to get a good deal from a used-car salesman. In the end, they will make out and you'll be left feeling you overpaid.

I sure hope that, collectively, we stop supporting these agency-run accounts and models with over-inflated opinions of themselves. Sure, she is sexy, but there are plenty more like her.
 
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100% right. It's a shame because she is amazing
 
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