Off Topic Expiring links don't protect you

[redery]

I've seen a lot of misunderstanding of how DMCA and the copyright system works in practice, so I'll put this here.
(If anyone is really interested on an academic level, here's some good resources.)

First of all, a DMCA takedown request goes to the hosting company, not the person who uploaded the content. Second, it's called a takedown request because that's literally what it is: a request to take down the material. There is no penalty if the host complies. And even if they don't, the liability is on them, because they're hosting it. This really doesn't affect you, the forum member.

Obviously a host can terminate your account (e.g. Mega does this often), but it's not like anyone comes after random uploaders, particularly people like members of this forum, who basically don't exist as far as anyone who could/would make any trouble is concerned. There really is essentially no risk in sharing links on a forum like this, whether they expire or not. Even when people are sharing terabytes of infringing content on paid Mega accounts (which makes them more identifiable), the only thing that happens is the content gets removed and maybe their account is terminated.

That being said, if anyone did care enough to come after you, the fact that your link expired wouldn't do anything to protect you. Anything that would identify you from an evergreen link would be there from an expired link. Even if the file is deleted from the host servers at expiration, they still could easily keep hash records.

But again, it isn't going to happen, because the necessary records generally aren't kept, and again, there would be no benefit to expend resources trying to identify and go after random members of a random forum. It's really about as likely as the copyright owners of "Happy Birthday" coming after you for singing their song at a child's party in a private home. The cost is too high, and the likelihood of any payoff is essentially nill. It's not as if anyone here has pockets deep enough to entice any law firm anyway.

So there's really no benefit to using expiring links. No one is coming after you, and if they did, the fact that the link expired wouldn't make a difference to protect you or the forum. (See comment #2.1 for more on how it pertains to the forum.)

You're not foiling anyone's lawsuit plans, you're not outsmarting The Man...You're literally just creating linkrot and the inevitable "reup??" forum trash.



For files under 50MB, you can upload directly in a post.

Video: It's been suggested to click embed after you attach a video to a post because it increases likelihood for playability for mobile viewers.​

​

Images: You don't, I repeat, you don't have to embed images in a post. If you just attach them, they will appear in the post as thumbnail attachments. This is preferred because not only does it allow the site to load faster, but it makes thread pages less cluttered and easier to navigate.​

PLEASE, if you insist on embedding images in the post, at least click the "thumbnail" button. And if you insist on embedding the full size image, at least manually resize it so forum members aren't having to wait for megabytes of gigantic photos to take up the screen every time they load the page.​

For files between 50MB–500MB, mirrored.to will mirror your upload across different hosts, giving recipients multiple options, and minimizing link rot.

For files 500MB+, of course mega.nz is standard, but requires registration, and it's not uncommon for content to get removed.

gofile.io looks pretty good so far. No registration required, and no file size or speed limits (or so it says). Downloads for me have been pretty slow compared to other hosts, but at least there's no expiration, and video files can be played without downloading.​

​

ufile.io is pretty fast with high limits and no required registration. File expiration is 30 days, but even after that paid users can still access files. (If you create a free account, your uploads won't expire, but you're limited to 2GB of storage unless you pay for more.)​

​

WeTransfer has been good, and it also doesn't require registration, and the limits are high enough, and speeds are good. The downside is content expires after only 7 days, so it leads to a lot of requests for reups.​

 

[First22]

I don't think the purpose of using a temporary host is for its own protection. I believe that if we always used hosts that ignore DMCA requests and that not expires, we would have far more models trying to sue the forum. Because as much as we share the contents is very difficult for you find everything from a model here on the forum. That wouldn't be the case if we didn't use temporary hosts and the content would always be available.(What does not happen with a temporary host)

 

[tiddiez_ass_and_sex;)§®Æ]

Hello,
what about hosts that expressly avoid takedown requests? I'm talking about cyberdrop and dmca.gripe. On the other hand we have a greatly popular site with a huge database which is Camwhores that with the private videos gimmick is foiling e-thots lawsuit plans efficiently
So what? Can a host just avoid legal problems hiding itself under different domains (.ru, .tv, .me etc...)? what did camwhores do well that other can't? Their community is massive and they host countless videos bypassing dmca

I don't think people insist on using Wetranfer and such for fear of getting caught, they use it because it's so easy and effortless to upload and share on wetransfer: no signup, no bullshit bandwith limits and hear, hear! those wt links even manage to last longer than some mega folders lmao. Mega on the other hand requires an account, is REALLY dmca sensitive leading to maybe the fastest takedowns
Obviously neither of them is to be preferred when dumping content here. I'd suggest using them as side options only, or when people keep spamming reup
We truly need a Mega alternative: with its ease of use and generous limits but also with camwhores resilience

p.s. : no need to use wetransfer, filemail is equally good if not better because size limit is 5 GB, also it shows thumbnails unlike wt