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In the Zaks thread I made a suggestion for offering feedback on her first OnlyFans PPV...
One response was:
I think this gives thots too much credit. They know sex sells, but that's about as far as it goes, especially for newbies like her.
Rookies don't understand business
When I say she doesn't know what she's doing, I mean she's literally just doing the same youtube/instagram content but with a little more ass, and charging money for it. That ain't gonna get her very far. I'll put it this way, if I had her body and her meager following, I could still easily clear at least $500k inside of a year easy, without even showing nudity. That's the difference.
It's why subreddits like SellerCircleStage and sites like PantySellingSchool.com exist.
These chicks don't understand what guys want (other than nudity) and they certainly don't understand anything about business. All the money they make is literally from the fact that they look a certain way, and platforms like Instagram/Facebook/YouTube/TikTok/OnlyFans make it stupidly easy to get an audience if you look like they do. It's virtually impossible to not get some sales.
Just look at the second-most popular person on TikTok.
I mean, she's young, female, and not fat. And she dances sometimes. That's really about it. That's all it takes to get a following on social media if you play the algorithm right. She's nowhere near a 10, and yet she has 77.4 million followers on TikTok alone. You're basically tripping over offers for money at that point.
And while the sheer size of her following is the extreme exception, it still supports my point that it doesn't take much to get a following. However, for the more common accounts with 5 and 6 figure followings, to make real money it takes a little more.
Just look at the top earners on myfreecams and sites like that. They aren't a bunch of 10s just doing try-on hauls. They're ~5sā ā7s who figured out how to run the business and deliver for the buyers. Sometimes you'll get legit hot chicks in there, but what the top earners all have in common is they have a regular posting/live-cam schedule. They run sweepstakes and offer prizes. They interact with fans and take suggestions. They set goal thresholds and deliver rewards when milestones are met. They make the whole thing an experience and cater to the customers. In other words, they treat it like a business. Most are just average chicks...
That's how even homely-looking girls can make decent bank (often more than chicks who are way hotter). Of course, they don't really have another option because they can't compete on looks, so it's kind of out of necessity. But it pays them better than most of the ones who are just used to living life on recruit difficulty, and therefore don't understand how to do OF properly. Unless you have a massive following (e.g. Malu) or some unique trait (e.g. Belle), you have to be a little more attentive to running it like a business and paying attention to what customers want.
This is just my conclusion going off the evidence of what's worked in the past. One need look no further than the evolution of CZ and Khalil and any of these other youtube crossovers who ended up doing better content. You can see the evolution of their content and how it coincided with the general mood of the buyers and the complaints being launched.
Thots evolve
When they start off coming fresh of the boat from youtube and instagram, they're shy. And they're in new territory and have no idea how to make proper content that people are willing to pay for on a large and sustainable scale, because they've never had to do it before. They're only getting on OnlyFans because they hear how much all the other thots are able to make, and their youtube monetization has dried up or been cut off entirely. It's not like they're going to do nudity right away, and they think it's as simple as just doing what they do on Instagram, but on a different platform behind a paywall.
And that actually works for a while because there's always troopers like the guy who shared the paid content in that thread by being willing to "bite the bullet" and pay to see what the thots are offering. But it doesn't last.
The e-thots flounder for a while, thanks to curious newbs who are late to the party and bite the bullet themselves, effectively replacing the earlier crop of buyers who have dropped off. This can actually work for a decent period of time. They can get away with basically doing the same lame tame stuff on repeat, but they never really experience any subscriber growth either. Eventually they get enough complaints and their numbers take a dip. At that point they either step away, or they start to learn to treat it more like a business.
CZ got scared away for a while when people started really railing into her for lame content. (It didn't help that some white knights told her that content was leaked, but she explicitly admitted that she didn't really understand what people wanted (outside of nudity), and asked for suggestions.) And she started implementing them.
Similar with Khalil. Her tame content got repetitive and stale, her numbers declined, and she started experimenting with different things and slowly getting more risque. I went into it in the "just enough" thread.
She went from "try-on hauls", to bondage and sitting on the camera lens, to having another girl hold her bare boobs and leaving nip slips in the recorded video. Why? Because people complained and stopped paying and told her why they stopped paying.
Getting what you want
My point is, e-thots do what they do for basically two reasons: ego/validation, and money. They can get the former from regular social media. They get on OF for the money. And once they get those first couple deposits for basically doing the same thing they would do for free on social media, that shit is hard to resist.
It's the easiest money they've ever made, and it's totally scalable (i.e. you don't have to work another hour to earn another $10, you just need one more person to buy the same video that took you 3 minutes to make.) Plus it's an ego boost, and it's almost the same thing they would be doing on social media anyway.
That's a powerful motivator, and if the people giving you that money tell you straight up what it will take for them to keep giving you money (and what will cause them to stop), most chicks will listen. It may take them a while to get the message, but once they get it, they tend to respond accordingly.
And yeah, blowing a little sunshine up someone's ass never really hurt either, particularly if that's part of what they're interested in in the first place.
So all I'm saying is, if you want a youtube chick who has made her way onto OnlyFans to deliver better content, DMs like I described is basically the easiest way to do it. If you've got an easier way, certainly let us know.
Be complimentary and encouraging, tell her what you liked and what you'd like to see in the future.
Something like:
So glad you started an OnlyFans! Liking the content so far.
Was cool to get a bikini try-on that's a little more spicy than what's allowed on youtube
Loved the booty shakes and getting different bikinis.
But I gotta admit it was a little pricey.
Would be great to get some different camera angles and more full body and frontal views.
Overall good stuff though.
She's just starting out, so we don't want to discourage by going full complaining right away. Be supportive, feed the ego a little bit and mention what you liked, but also what you don't like, and suggestions for what content you'd like to see.
Most of these chicks have no idea what they're doing, so it's helpful to give some guidance. They know everyone wants nudity, but they have almost no idea of anything outside of that. And if they aren't ready to do nudity, that translates to them having no real concept of what to do and how to make enticing content. It's how you have thots like Vicky Stark doing the same f-ing try-on video for almost 3 years.
Got to encourage, but also be clear with likes/dislikes and suggestions.
One response was:
@redery You are simpinā hard. She knows exactly what sheās doing and has been doing slutty YouTube content for years to get views. Now sheās not hiding that sheās trying to monetize and is acting shy to string guys along as long as possible without doing anything different than YouTube.
I think this gives thots too much credit. They know sex sells, but that's about as far as it goes, especially for newbies like her.
Rookies don't understand business
When I say she doesn't know what she's doing, I mean she's literally just doing the same youtube/instagram content but with a little more ass, and charging money for it. That ain't gonna get her very far. I'll put it this way, if I had her body and her meager following, I could still easily clear at least $500k inside of a year easy, without even showing nudity. That's the difference.
It's why subreddits like SellerCircleStage and sites like PantySellingSchool.com exist.
These chicks don't understand what guys want (other than nudity) and they certainly don't understand anything about business. All the money they make is literally from the fact that they look a certain way, and platforms like Instagram/Facebook/YouTube/TikTok/OnlyFans make it stupidly easy to get an audience if you look like they do. It's virtually impossible to not get some sales.
Just look at the second-most popular person on TikTok.
I mean, she's young, female, and not fat. And she dances sometimes. That's really about it. That's all it takes to get a following on social media if you play the algorithm right. She's nowhere near a 10, and yet she has 77.4 million followers on TikTok alone. You're basically tripping over offers for money at that point.
And while the sheer size of her following is the extreme exception, it still supports my point that it doesn't take much to get a following. However, for the more common accounts with 5 and 6 figure followings, to make real money it takes a little more.
Just look at the top earners on myfreecams and sites like that. They aren't a bunch of 10s just doing try-on hauls. They're ~5sā ā7s who figured out how to run the business and deliver for the buyers. Sometimes you'll get legit hot chicks in there, but what the top earners all have in common is they have a regular posting/live-cam schedule. They run sweepstakes and offer prizes. They interact with fans and take suggestions. They set goal thresholds and deliver rewards when milestones are met. They make the whole thing an experience and cater to the customers. In other words, they treat it like a business. Most are just average chicks...
That's how even homely-looking girls can make decent bank (often more than chicks who are way hotter). Of course, they don't really have another option because they can't compete on looks, so it's kind of out of necessity. But it pays them better than most of the ones who are just used to living life on recruit difficulty, and therefore don't understand how to do OF properly. Unless you have a massive following (e.g. Malu) or some unique trait (e.g. Belle), you have to be a little more attentive to running it like a business and paying attention to what customers want.
This is just my conclusion going off the evidence of what's worked in the past. One need look no further than the evolution of CZ and Khalil and any of these other youtube crossovers who ended up doing better content. You can see the evolution of their content and how it coincided with the general mood of the buyers and the complaints being launched.
Thots evolve
When they start off coming fresh of the boat from youtube and instagram, they're shy. And they're in new territory and have no idea how to make proper content that people are willing to pay for on a large and sustainable scale, because they've never had to do it before. They're only getting on OnlyFans because they hear how much all the other thots are able to make, and their youtube monetization has dried up or been cut off entirely. It's not like they're going to do nudity right away, and they think it's as simple as just doing what they do on Instagram, but on a different platform behind a paywall.
And that actually works for a while because there's always troopers like the guy who shared the paid content in that thread by being willing to "bite the bullet" and pay to see what the thots are offering. But it doesn't last.
The e-thots flounder for a while, thanks to curious newbs who are late to the party and bite the bullet themselves, effectively replacing the earlier crop of buyers who have dropped off. This can actually work for a decent period of time. They can get away with basically doing the same lame tame stuff on repeat, but they never really experience any subscriber growth either. Eventually they get enough complaints and their numbers take a dip. At that point they either step away, or they start to learn to treat it more like a business.
CZ got scared away for a while when people started really railing into her for lame content. (It didn't help that some white knights told her that content was leaked, but she explicitly admitted that she didn't really understand what people wanted (outside of nudity), and asked for suggestions.) And she started implementing them.
Similar with Khalil. Her tame content got repetitive and stale, her numbers declined, and she started experimenting with different things and slowly getting more risque. I went into it in the "just enough" thread.
She went from "try-on hauls", to bondage and sitting on the camera lens, to having another girl hold her bare boobs and leaving nip slips in the recorded video. Why? Because people complained and stopped paying and told her why they stopped paying.
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Getting what you want
My point is, e-thots do what they do for basically two reasons: ego/validation, and money. They can get the former from regular social media. They get on OF for the money. And once they get those first couple deposits for basically doing the same thing they would do for free on social media, that shit is hard to resist.
It's the easiest money they've ever made, and it's totally scalable (i.e. you don't have to work another hour to earn another $10, you just need one more person to buy the same video that took you 3 minutes to make.) Plus it's an ego boost, and it's almost the same thing they would be doing on social media anyway.
That's a powerful motivator, and if the people giving you that money tell you straight up what it will take for them to keep giving you money (and what will cause them to stop), most chicks will listen. It may take them a while to get the message, but once they get it, they tend to respond accordingly.
And yeah, blowing a little sunshine up someone's ass never really hurt either, particularly if that's part of what they're interested in in the first place.
So all I'm saying is, if you want a youtube chick who has made her way onto OnlyFans to deliver better content, DMs like I described is basically the easiest way to do it. If you've got an easier way, certainly let us know.
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